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Received: from megatron.ietf.org (megatron.ietf.org [132.151.6.71]) by segue.merit.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C2B5AAAD; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 10:40:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BwidH-0003oG-3x; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 10:38:43 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BwiZp-0001i3-W9 for pppext@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 10:35:10 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA07279 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 10:35:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p-mail2.rd.francetelecom.com ([195.101.245.16]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bwife-0002MR-1s for pppext@ietf.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 10:41:10 -0400 Received: from parmhs4.rd.francetelecom.fr ([10.193.117.63]) by parsmtp2.rd.francetelecom.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Mon, 16 Aug 2004 16:35:02 +0200 Received: from [10.193.106.38] ([10.193.106.38]) by parmhs4.rd.francetelecom.fr with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6747); Mon, 16 Aug 2004 16:35:01 +0200 Message-ID: <4120C66E.3070003@rd.francetelecom.fr> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 16:36:30 +0200 From: Florent Bersani User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.2 (Windows/20040707) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: james.d.carlson@sun.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Aug 2004 14:35:01.0809 (UTC) FILETIME=[36A54A10:01C4839E] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: ffa9dfbbe7cc58b3fa6b8ae3e57b0aa3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: pppext@ietf.org, paul@funk.com, "eap@frascone.com" Subject: [Pppext] Removing EAP-TTLS from the PPPEXT Internet-Draft list X-BeenThere: pppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: PPP Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: pppext-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: pppext-bounces@ietf.org Hi James, May I respectfully suggest that EAP-TTLS be removed from the PPPEXT Internet-Draft list (http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/pppext-charter.html)? This is IMHO a relic of the ancient time when PPPEXT hosted much of the EAP debate (because EAP RFC 2284 has originally been developed within PPPEXT). It is my understanding that since the creation of the EAP WG (it seemed that this goes back to 2002), PPPEXT has handed over all work related to EAP. BR, Florent P.S: In addition, depending on long the weather conditions make EAP-TTLS authors take to have this method publish as an RFC (to be more precise, the three RFCs that Paul mentioned at IETF 60), I would suggest renaming the EAP-TTLS Internet-Draft from a WG I-D (its current name is draft-ietf-pppext-eap-tlls-XX) to an individual submission I-D (i.e. sth like draft-funk-eap-ttls-YY). See e.g., http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg30778.html for some discussion on I-D naming conventions. _______________________________________________ Pppext mailing list Pppext@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pppext From pppext-bounces@ietf.org Mon Aug 16 14:09:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ietf-ppplog@merit.edu Received: from megatron.ietf.org (megatron.ietf.org [132.151.6.71]) by segue.merit.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A875AAA3; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 14:09:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BwltG-0001zA-KS; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 14:07:26 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Bwla9-0007Mq-UY for pppext@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 13:47:42 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA17592 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 13:47:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brmea-mail-3.sun.com ([192.18.98.34]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bwlfy-0005QB-EM for pppext@ietf.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 13:53:44 -0400 Received: from eastmail1bur.East.Sun.COM ([129.148.9.49]) by brmea-mail-3.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i7GHlbil024862 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 11:47:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from phorcys.East.Sun.COM (phorcys.East.Sun.COM [129.148.174.143]) by eastmail1bur.East.Sun.COM (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10/ENSMAIL, v2.2) with ESMTP id i7GHlbQL015387 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 13:47:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phorcys.East.Sun.COM (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phorcys.East.Sun.COM (8.13.0+Sun/8.13.0) with ESMTP id i7GHlbGv005884; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 13:47:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from carlsonj@localhost) by phorcys.East.Sun.COM (8.13.0+Sun/8.13.0/Submit) id i7GHlbQ0005881; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 13:47:37 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16672.62265.78604.159191@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 13:47:37 -0400 From: James Carlson To: Florent Bersani In-Reply-To: Florent Bersani's message of 16 August 2004 16:36:30 References: <4120C66E.3070003@rd.francetelecom.fr> X-Mailer: VM 7.01 under Emacs 21.3.1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 798b2e660f1819ae38035ac1d8d5e3ab Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: pppext@ietf.org, paul@funk.com, "eap@frascone.com" Subject: [Pppext] Re: Removing EAP-TTLS from the PPPEXT Internet-Draft list X-BeenThere: pppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: PPP Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: pppext-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: pppext-bounces@ietf.org Florent Bersani writes: > May I respectfully suggest that EAP-TTLS be removed from the PPPEXT > Internet-Draft list (http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/pppext-charter.html)? That'd certainly be fine with me. In fact, I believe I suggested the very same thing when it was proposed. It doesn't seem to belong in PPPEXT. What I think needs to be fixed here is EAP, not PPPEXT. EAP isn't accepting per-method drafts yet. (And perhaps not at all. It's not clear to me that this is really a settled issue.) > It is my understanding that since the creation of the EAP WG (it seemed > that this goes back to 2002), PPPEXT has handed over all work related to > EAP. We'd like to, but I think EAP perhaps needs a new charter. -- James Carlson, IP Systems Group Sun Microsystems / 1 Network Drive 71.234W Vox +1 781 442 2084 MS UBUR02-212 / Burlington MA 01803-2757 42.497N Fax +1 781 442 1677 _______________________________________________ Pppext mailing list Pppext@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pppext From pppext-bounces@ietf.org Tue Aug 31 19:30:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ietf-ppplog@merit.edu Received: from megatron.ietf.org (megatron.ietf.org [132.151.6.71]) by segue.merit.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B0F6EBCD; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:30:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1C2I0i-0002dN-Ld; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:25:56 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1C2Htq-0001S1-FT for pppext@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:18:50 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA11205 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:18:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from segue.merit.edu ([198.108.1.41]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1C2Hvt-0002G7-Vd for pppext@ietf.org; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:20:59 -0400 Received: by segue.merit.edu (Postfix) id 7814F6EC51; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:18:48 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: ietf-ppp@merit.edu Received: from wireless-Simu.net (coita-pc.uncc.edu [152.15.24.197]) by segue.merit.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 3A4385A970 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:18:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:23:12 -0500 To: "Ietf-ppp" From: "Mgrayson" Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--------ujprzmebyvovxswdddcz" X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Scan-Signature: a8a20a483a84f747e56475e290ee868e Cc: Subject: [Pppext] foto X-BeenThere: pppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: PPP Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: pppext-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: pppext-bounces@ietf.org ----------ujprzmebyvovxswdddcz Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit foto


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