INTERIM_MEETING_REPORT_ Reported by John Veizades/Apple APPLEIP Minutes Minutes of the InterOp '91 meeting of the Apple-IP IETF Working Group. The meeting started with the following Agenda: o MacIP o AURP o AppleTalk and SNMP o AppleTalk and PPP The consensus of the Group was that the MacIP document should be supplemented with some of the comments made by Tom Evans in an appendix to the document as a set of implementers notes. The Group also felt that the specification is riddled with problems and that this specification should be worked on to provide a long term solution. The author was willing to do this if he is not chartered to work on the long term direction of this specification. The MacIP document will be moved to the draft stage as soon as these changes are made. The AURP discussion then began Alan Oppenheimer of Apple led this discussion. The discussion started with a description of the protocol changes between this document and the previous version of the document. The changes are as follows: o Addition of Open-Req and Open-Rsp packets o Changes to zone-based packets - Move into connection stream - Combined into one packet type o Packet header changes o Changes to details of connection teardown - Keep the one-way connections independent - Only reset tickle timer on AURP packets o Calling out of transport as a separate layer ``AURP-Tr'' On the last subject there was heated debate on if this was the correct way to design the protocol and it was stated that this may tie the protocol to IP and not make it portable to other protocols. The following points were thought to be essential to allowing the protocol 1 to be accepted as an internet standard. The type of service required by the underlying media should be called out specifically. The transport should be separated from the rest of the protocol so that other transports could be used. A state diagram should be included in the document. Some discussion on the ability of AURP to solve the problems of the mythical customer were held. Some real customers (Boeing and NASA) expressed their doubts as to the need of this functionality in their networks. The state diagram of the AURP protocol will be specified and then the document will be put in the Internet Drafts directory. The next topic was AppleTalk and PPP. A preliminary document specifying the use of SNMP over DDP was presented by Mike Ritter from Apple. This document is available on apple.com in the directory /pub/apple-ip. The AppleTalk MIB II document is also available there. These documents are also available on AppleLink in the Developer Support folder. The final topic that was discussed was the start of work by this Group on the AppleTalk over PPP specification. Brad Parker has been working with others on a preliminary specification for this functionality and this will be available from him shortly. This specification supports much of the functionality that is available with the ARAP (Apple Remote Access Protocol) specification that is available through APDA. Brad is also working with the PPP Extensions Working Group to arrive at a specification for dial back and security on PPP links. The next meeting will be held in conjunction with the IETF meeting in Sante Fe New Mexico Nov. 18-22, 1991. 2