Editor's Note: Minutes received by 12/9/92 CURRENT_MEETING_REPORT_ Reported by Brien Wheeler/MITRE Minutes of the MHS-DS Working Group (MHSDS) Agenda o Minutes of Boston Meeting o Action Item Review o Revision of Charter o MHS-DS Pilot Project Planning - Project Coordinator - Project Participants - Software o Document Review o Adjournment Minutes of Boston Meeting The minutes of the Boston meeting were approved as written. Action Item Review o Update of Charter (Kevin Jordan) - Done. o Produce MHS-DS Overview Document (Kevin Jordan) - Not done. o Revision of MHS-DS Documents (Steve Hardcastle-Kille) - Done. o Production of Pseudocode for Routing Document (Harald Tveit Alvestrand) - Not done. o Produce Document on Other MHS-DS Issues (Jim Romaguera) - Not done. Revision of Charter Kevin's revised Charter was discussed and approved. Harald noted that some people have exhibited confusion as to whether or not user support is within the scope of MHS-DS. His opinion was that we should explicitly state in the Charter that that is not MHS-DS' function. Steve felt that there may be cases, particularly in the upcoming pilot, where MHS-DS may need to provide some user support. MHS-DS Pilot Project Planning Kevin stated that to make this pilot successful, we need people who have the resources and motivation to take key coordination roles. A list for indicating interest in participating in the pilot was circulated. Steve 1 indicated that the PARADISE project has a deliverable in piloting the use of directory, so that they may be prepared to manage the MHS-DS pilot. David Goodman would be a good point of contact for pursuing this. Kevin pointed out that initial coordination of the pilot may not demand much time and effort, and that it can probably be accomplished via email, so he volunteered to be the coordinator. Others who volunteered to participate in the pilot project include: o Harald Tveit Alvestrand o Allan Cargille o John Dale o Arlene Getchell o John Hawthorne o Kevin Jordan o Sylvain Langlois o Mary LaRoche o Steve Hardcastle-Kille o Jim Romaguera o Panos Tsigaridas o Karen Petraska-Veum o Peter Yee o Yung Yu The question was raised as to whether Quipu 8.0 supports all the new attribute syntaxes defined within the MHS-DS attributes. Additionally, will the final public release of PP use these new attributes and algorithms? Steve informed the Group that the situation is ``unfortunate but a little complex.'' ISODE 8.0 was distributed in July, with a schema aligned to the then-current Internet-Drafts. This may cause certain problems in pilot use, but most likely only in complicated messaging situations. An alpha release of PP was made in August that was aligned to the July version of the MHS-DS documents. A beta release also aligned to the July documents will be both integrated into the ISODE Consortium beta release, and be released by X-Tel as a test under the auspices of JNT. It is expected that this release will evolve into the final public distribution of PP. The ISODE Consortium will be focusing on other aspects of the system, while X-Tel will concentrate on the use of directory aspects. X-Tel expects to make this release by the end of the year. Harald raised the question of the relationship between local tables and directory information. Steve replied that there is a minor problem in the PP implementation in that there is not a strict one-to-one relationship between information in the directory and table information, so that people have to configure PP differently if it is using the directory. Harald raised the question of the precedence of local routing information and directory information. Steve replied that currently no 2 intelligence exists within the software to facilitate this, but reminded everyone that this software is of recent origin, and it will be evolving. The question of putting the COSINE tables into the directory arose. This led to a discussion of automated tools for directory configuration. The conclusion is that at this time, no one can commit to developing these tools now, but some sites may be able to fund development projects later. In particular, the German research network, DFN, is planning to fund such development beginning early in 1993 (contact Panos Tsigaridas). Meanwhile, MHS-DS is encouraging sites to put their own configuration information into the directory. Specific participants will be responsible for adding the necessary infrastructure entries (i.e., ADMD and PRMD entries) to the directory in order to allow other participants to add their routing and configuration information independently. After lunch, Kevin gave a presentation on ``LONG BUD,'' the new MHS-DS pilot project (Lightweight Open Naming with Global Bearing Using Directory). LONG BUD has the following goals: o Wider connectivity and greater direct connectivity between pilot MTAs. o Provision of address mapping information as well as routing information. o Reduction in complexity of participating in X.400 pilots. o Support for X.400 communities without X.500 access (i.e., ADMDs and the COSINE MHS WEPS). This will require the development of some tools. o Elimination of the need to distribute routing tables manually among pilot participants LONG BUD will be international in scope, with participants already identified in DE, FR, NO, UK, and US. Other possible near-term participants include CH, IT, and FI. Further resources that may be able to help advance this pilot include the DFN (GMB) MHS-DS project, the ISODE Consortium, and the JNT UK project. This pilot will run at least through the July 1993 IETF, with directory population of participant information being a defined goal for the March 1993 IETF meeting. Success can be declared when two main goals are met: tables are no longer used by directory-capable MTAs, and the directory is the principal source for routing information. Certain pieces of functionality have been identified as critical to the success of LONG BUD: programs to extract routing information from the directory for table-based MTA's, an email interface to the directory 3 (DFN) for end-users, and the ISODE Quipu and directory-capable PP software. The distribution list for LONG BUD will be the MHS-DS discussion list, mhs-ds@mercury.udev.cdc.com (anonymous ftp archive server quixote.css.cdc.com), and Kevin Jordan (kej@mercury.udev.cdc.com) will be the Pilot Coordinator. Action Item Jim Romaguera will populate the Swiss portion of the DIT with ADMD names. Action Item Kevin Jordan will contact Wengyik Yeong about populating ADMDs under c=US. Action Item Harald Tveit Alvestrand will contact the appropriate person about populating the ADMDs under c=NO. Action Item Sylvain Langlois will contact the appropriate person about populating the ADMDs under c=FR. Action Item Panos Tsigaridas will contact the appropriate person about populating the ADMDs under c=DE. These people will be points of contact for management of the PRMD namespace within their respective countries. Peter Yee will be the point of contact for registering PRMDs under ADMD=TELEMAIL, c=US. Document Review o Representing Tables and Subtrees in the Directory This document will be progressed with minor editorial changes as a Prototype Standard. o Representing the O/R Address Hierarchy in the Directory Information Tree. This document spurred a discussion of the problem of alias proliferation due to alternate names and underspecified O/R addresses. It was agreed that this issues bears on the routing document, and not the mapping document. This document will be progressed with minor editorial changes as a Prototype Standard. o Use of the Directory to Support Mapping Between X.400 and RFC 822 Addresses. This document will be progressed with minor editorial changes to a Prototype Standard. o A Simple Profile of MHS Use of the Directory. Although no changes were made to this document, its progression will be postponed so that it may be published with the routing document it profiles. 4 o MHS Use of Directory to Support MHS Routing. This document went through some technical revision at the meeting, and hence will remain an Internet-Draft until at least the March 1993 MHS-DS meeting. Action Item: Kevin Jordan will send mail to Erik Huizer when the indicated documents are ready for progression. Adjournment Next meeting: The Spring 1993 IETF will be held in Columbus, Ohio, March 28th - April 2nd. Attendees Harald Alvestrand Harald.Alvestrand@delab.sintef.no George Chang gkc@ctt.bellcore.com John Dale jdale@cos.com Daniel Fauvarque dfauvarq@france.sun.com Raphael Freiwirth 5242391@mcimail.com Ella Gardner epg@gateway.mitre.org Tony Genovese genovese@es.net Arlene Getchell getchell@es.net Alf Hansen Alf.Hansen@delab.sintef.no Steve Hardcastle-Kille s.kille@isode.com John Hawthorne johnh@tigger.rl.af.mil Erik Huizer huizer@surfnet.nl Barbara Jennings bjjenni@sandia.gov Kevin Jordan kej@udev.cdc.com Marko Kaittola marko.kaittola@funet.fi Mary La Roche maryl@cos.com Sylvain Langlois Sylvain.Langlois@der.edf.fr John Myers jgm+@cmu.edu Karen Petraska-Veum karen@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov Jim Romaguera romaguera@cosine-mhs.switch.ch Panos-Gavriil Tsigaridas Tsigaridas@fokus.berlin.gmd.dbp.de Brien Wheeler blw@mitre.org Peter Yee yee@atlas.arc.nasa.gov 5