IETF STEERING GROUP (IESG) REPORT FROM THE IETF MEETING January 11th, 1993 Reported by: Greg Vaudreuil, IESG Secretary This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items. These minutes were compiled by the IETF Secretariat which is supported by the National Science Foundation under Grant No. NCR 8820945. For more information please contact the IESG Secretary. iesg-secretary@cnri.reston.va.us. ATTENDEES --------- Borman, David / Cray Research Chapin, Lyman / BBN Crocker, Steve / TIS Coya, Steve / CNRI Gross, Philip / ANS Hinden, Robert / SUN Hobby, Russ / UC-DAVIS Huizer, Erik / SURFnet Knowles, Stev / FTP Software Reynolds, Joyce / ISI Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI Regrets Almquist, Philip / Consultant Crocker, Dave / TBO Davin, Chuck / Bellcore Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore AGENDA ------ 1) Administrivia o Role Call o Bash the Agenda o Approval of the Minutes - December 21st - January 4th 2) Protocol Actions o PEM o SMTP Extensions o DS1 MIB o DS3 MIB 3) Technical Management Issues o IP Addressing Guidelines o ROAD Communications 4) RFC Editor Actions o RIP (Wide Area Routing with RIP) o BGP Default Route o SNMP over Various Protocols 5) Working Group Actions o IP Security (ipsec) o Skinny Stack MINUTES ------- 1) Administrivia o Bash the Agenda Agenda was adjusted to accommodate the limited participation of Lyman Chapin and Steve Crocker. o Next Meeting Arrangements The IESG will not meet January 18th, a U.S. federal holiday. The next meeting will be January 25th. o Approval of the Minutes The IESG approved the minutes of December 21st. Approval of the January 4th minutes was deferred. The IESG minutes are made publicly available shortly after being approved. The availability of these minutes is not announced to the IETF list and there was agreement that periodic announcements should be made on the IETF mailing list and the in the Internet Monthly Report. ACTION: Coya -- Announce the availability of the IESG minutes in the IMR and periodically to the IETF mailing list. 2) Protocol Actions o PEM Steve Crocker provided the IESG shortly before the meeting with a copy of the correspondence between the IAB and the principal patent holders for the PEM security technology. Final approval of PEM was deferred until the material could be studied. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Incorporate changes suggested into the protocol action and send a ballot to the IESG. There was discussion on the process by which future protocols using patented technology can be handled more efficiently. The IETF needs a clear statement of policy and a standard procedure for the next issue to arise. IEEE and ANSI procedures were discussed as a model. Among the items to be resolved are the establishment of a repository for release letters, and a clear understanding of what are "reasonable" terms for purposes of standardization. o SMTP The IESG deferred consideration of the SMTP Extension protocols. o DS1 MIB and DS3 MIB The IESG approved the revised DS1 and DS3 specifications for re-publication as Proposed Standards. The previous versions, RFC 1233 and RFC 1332 were moved to Historic. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the DS1 and DS3 Protocol Action to the IETF-Announce list. 3) Technical Management. o IESG Balloting. During the IESG discussion on the SMTP Extensions, an inconsistency was noted between the various ballots sent to the IESG. Discussion resulted the following ballot choices. "Yes" - The specification was explicitly reviewed and no objections were found "No Objection" - The specification was not reviewed explicitly but a review of the protocol action raised no objections "Discuss" - A review of the protocol action or the specification raised an item of concern which needs to be addressed. "Abstain" - A conflict of interest may exist and the IESG member choose not to register a vote. Eight "Yes" or "No Objection" and no "Discuss" votes will result in passage by a protocol. o IP Addressing A teleconference was scheduled for Wednesday to discuss and reach resolution on the status of the IP Addressing Guidelines document. ACTION: Gross - Schedule a teleconference to reach closure on the status of the IP addressing guidelines document. o ROAD Communication Stev Knowles sent out a note soliciting comments on whether the IESG should make an explicit decision for a particular next IP protocol. Emerging consensus seems to be that an early decision in March is unwarranted. There is some feeling that all competitors should be put in the pressure cooker until they reach a common proposal. There was some discussion that a new packet format was not needed at all, just a new routing architecture. ACTION: Knowles -- When the discussion subsides, send a note to the IETF list summarizing any consensus that emerges. 4) RFC Editor Actions o Wide Area Routing with RIP There was no discussion on this proposal. This was forwarded by the RFC Editor to the IESG to be considered for Proposed Standard. o BGP Default Route The Internet Draft approved by the IESG and IAB was incomplete, missing references and a security considerations section. This was not discussed by the IESG. o SNMP over [OSI, Appletalk, IPX] These documents approved by the IESG contain sections which appear to be obsolete given the work in the SNMP Security Working Group. The RFC Editor wants to know if they should be updated prior to publication. This was not discussed. APPENDIX - Action Items taken ACTION: Coya -- Announce the availability of the IESG minutes in the IMR and periodically to the IETF mailing list. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the DS1 and DS3 Protocol Action to the IETF-Announce list. ACTION: Gross - Schedule a teleconference to reach closure on the status of the IP addressing guidelines document. ACTION: Knowles -- When the discussion subsides, send a note to the IETF list summarizing any consensus that emerges.