Editor's Note: These minutes have not been edited. DNSIND minutes 38th IETF Memphis, 9 April 1997 * Status of various drafts - draft-ietf-dnsind-classless-inaddr-{00,01}.txt The -00 draft passed working group last call some time ago, and was passed on to the IESG. Comments received from the IESG and other parties have been incorporated by the authors into a -01 draft which was posted too late for ID for this meeting. No major changes. People should be aware that nameservers which delegate zones in this fashion should be authoritative for both the parent and child zones, in order to reduce problems in old software with CNAME records crossing zone boundaries. - draft-ietf-dnsind-2ndry-04.txt This draft relies on the Clarify draft, and will progress with it. - draft-ietf-dnsind-clarify-{07,08}.txt The -07 draft is available, and the -08 draft is nearly ready. There have been no recent requests for additions to this document. The major change in the upcoming -08 draft is clarification of what should appear in the MNAME field of the SOA record: the name of the master host. WG last call will be issued when 08 is published. - draft-ietf-dnsind-ncache-03.txt This draft is not yet ready. See recent comments on the mailing list. * Interoperability The following documents are on the standards track, and the group intends to move them to draft standard. RFC 1995 - IXFR (currently Proposed Standard) RFC 1996 - Notify (currently Proposed Standard) RFC 1982 - serial number arithmetic (currently Proposed Standard) draft-ietf-dnsind-dynDNS-11.txt - dynamic update (about to be PS) In order for the documents to be advanced to Draft Standard, there must be at least two interoperable, independently developed implementations. BIND and an implementation for OS/2 are available (except that there's no IXFR implementation for bind). In the case of serial number arithmetic, Randy Bush will attempt to locate or perform a formal proof of correctness, and proposes to use that in lieu of one of the implementations. The IESG and poisson have not encouraged this. Stuart Kwan from Microsoft may be interested in sponsoring an interoperability testing bake-off. Robert Elz has an implementation of sequence space arithmetic that works with an arbitrary number of bits. This could be tested against the 32-bit implementations in various nameservers. It was decided that different people will organise and report on the testing of different components. - Masataka Ohta will organise interoperability testing of IXFR; - Michael Patton and Olafur Gudmundsson will organise interoperability testing of dynamic update and secure dynamic update; - Michael Patton will organise interoperability testing of Notify; - Robert Elz will organise interoperability testing of serial number arithmetic. It was noted that there's no strict need to perform interoperability testing of classless in-addr delegation, because that draft is intended to become a BCP, not a Draft Standard. * Status of DNSSEC drafts that affect DNSIND drafts The secure dynamic update draft (draft-ietf-dnssec-update-04.txt) has been approved by the IESG and should go to Proposed Standard. There will be at least a six month delay before a PS can move to DS. It is expected that the non-secure dynamic update draft (draft-ietf-dnsind-dynDNS-11.txt) will be able to move forward on the standards track together. * Future of the dnsind working group I, N and D (IXFR, Notify, Dynamic update) are essentially completed. There are some items, such as TSIG (draft-ietf-dnsind-tsig-01.txt) and the Kitchen Sink RR (draft-eastlake-kitchen-sink-01.txt) that can conveniently be handled by dnsind. There are other issues, such as negative cacheing and future evolution of the DNS, that might be better handled elsewhere. It's not clear what the most appropriate course would be. The chair indicated that he was waiting for guidance from the IESG on what should be done with the TSIG draft. If guidance is not forthcoming within a week or so, a WG last call will be issued. The authors may make a quick update first. Thanks to Alan Barret for acting as scribe.