INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Minutes of the October 16, 2003 IESG Teleconference Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES ------------------ Harald Alvestrand / Cisco Rob Austein / IAB Liaison Steve Bellovin / AT&T Randy Bush / IIJ Leslie Daigle / Verisign (IAB) Bill Fenner / AT&T Barbara Fuller / IETF Secretariat Ted Hardie / Qualcomm, Inc. Russ Housley / Vigil Security, LLC Thomas Narten / IBM Jon Peterson / NeuStar, Inc. Joyce K. Reynolds / ISI (RFC Editor) Dinara Suleymanova / IETF Secretariat Amy Vezza / IETF Secretariat Margaret Wasserman / Nokia Bert Wijnen / Lucent Alex Zinin / Alcatel REGRETS ------------ Michelle Cotton / ICANN Ned Freed / Sun Microsystems Allison Mankin / Bell Labs, Lucent MINUTES --------------- 1. Administrivia 1.1 Approval of the Minutes The minutes of the October 2, 2003 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. 1.2 Review of Action Items DONE: o Jon Peterson to review draft-agrawal-sip-h323-interworking-reqs and send decision to IESG. o Alex Zinin to send proposal and justification for interim document review. o Alex Zinin to phrase a question to RTG and OPS Area Directorats and IAB on PPVPN issue. Alex to summarize the results as a proposed IESG consensus regarding the PPVPN issue to be given to the PPVPN working group. o Harald Alvestrand to discuss with Barbara Fuller the process of listing the scribes for IETF Meetings on WG charter Web pages. DELETED: NONE IN PROGRESS: o Thomas Narten to write (or cause to be written) a draft on "how to get to Draft". o Thomas Narten to contact Cablelabs to discuss formal relationship with IAB. o Steve Bellovin to write RFC re: TCP MD5 option. o Randy Bush and Ned Freed to finish ID on Clarifying when Standards Track Documents may Refer Normatively to Documents at a Lower Level. o Randy Bush and Bill Fenner to generate a description of policy about a) meetings using the network in conjunction with IETF meetings, and b) putting experiments on the network during the IETF meeting. o Ted Hardie to take responsibility for initiating a discussion on applications' expectations on the behaviour of the DNS system. NEW: o Secretariat to send the updated EDU Team charter to the IETF Announce list for IETF review. 2. Protocol Actions 2.1 WG Submissions 2.1.1 New Item o Two-document ballot: - 1 of 6 - draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-routing-08.txt Routing Extensions in Support of Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (Proposed Standard) - draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-gmpls-extensions-11.txt OSPF Extensions in Support of Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (Proposed Standard) Token: Bert Wijnen The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Russ Housley.* o draft-vida-mld-v2-07.txt - 2 of 6 Multicast Listener Discovery Version 2 (MLDv2) for IPv6 (Proposed Standard) Token: Margaret Wasserman The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Randy Bush.* o draft-ietf-msec-mikey-07.txt - 3 of 6 MIKEY: Multimedia Internet KEYing (Proposed Standard) Token: Russ Housley The document was deferred to the next teleconference (10/30/03) by Jon Peterson. o draft-ietf-secsh-auth-kbdinteract-05.txt - 4 of 6 Generic Message Exchange Authentication For SSH (Proposed Standard) Token: Russ Housley The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin, Ned Freed, and Ted Hardie.* o draft-ietf-mboned-msdp-deploy-03.txt - 5 of 6 Multicast Source Discovery Protocol (MSDP) Deployment Scenarios (BCP) Token: Randy Bush The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Thomas Narten.* o Two-document ballot: - 6 of 6 - draft-ietf-adslmib-hc-tc-06.txt High Capacity Textual Conventions for MIB Modules Using Performance History Based on 15 Minute Intervals (Proposed Standard) - draft-ietf-adslmib-vdsl-12.txt Definitions of Managed Objects for Very High Speed Digital Subscriber Lines (VDSL) (Proposed Standard) Token: Bert Wijnen The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Margaret Wasserman.* 2.1.2 Returning Item o draft-ietf-pkix-pi-07.txt - 1 of 1 Internet X.509 Public Key Infrastructure Permanent Identifier (Proposed Standard) Token: Russ Housley The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Harald Alvestrand, Randy Bush, Ted Hardie, and Jon Peterson.* 2.2 Individual Submissions 2.2.1 New Item o draft-blumenthal-aes-usm-07.txt - 1 of 3 The AES Cipher Algorithm in the SNMP's User-based Security Model (Proposed Standard) Token: Steve Bellovin The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Russ Housley.* o draft-rajeshkumar-mmusic-gpmd-03.txt - 2 of 3 SDP attribute for qualifying Media Formats with Generic Parameters (Proposed Standard) Token: Jon Peterson The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Randy Bush, Ned Freed and Ted Hardie.* o draft-ymbk-6to4-arpa-delegation-00.txt - 3 of 3 Delegation of 2.0.0.2.ip6.arpa (BCP) Token: Russ Housley The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Bert Wijnen.* 2.2.2 Returning Item NONE 3. Document Actions 3.1 WG Submissions 3.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-ipsec-dpd-03.txt - 1 of 2 A Traffic-Based Method of Detecting Dead IKE Peers (Informational) Token: Russ Housley The document remains under discussion by the IESG.* o draft-ietf-ipsec-nat-reqts-05.txt - 2 of 2 IPsec-NAT Compatibility Requirements (Informational) Token: Russ Housley The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Russ Housley. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. 3.1.2 Returning Item o draft-ietf-ipo-framework-05.txt - 1 of 2 IP over Optical Networks: A Framework (Informational) Token: Alex Zinin The document was removed from the agenda by Alex Zinin. o draft-ietf-dhc-unused-optioncodes-07.txt Unused DHCP Option Codes (Informational) Token: Margaret Wasserman The document was removed from the agenda by Margaret Wasserman. The Secretariat will place the document on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference (10/30/03). 3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD 3.2.1 New Item NONE 3.2.2 Returning Item o draft-gill-gtsh-04.txt - 1 of 1 The Generalized TTL Security Mechanism (GTSM) (Experimental) Token: Alex Zinin The document was removed from the agenda by Alex Zinin. The Secretariat will place the document on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference (10/30/03). 3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor 3.3.1 New Item o draft-bless-diffserv-pdb-le-01.txt - 1 of 3 A Lower Effort Per-Domain Behavior for Differentiated Services (Informational) Token: Jon Peterson The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document. The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC Editor. o draft-bless-diffserv-multicast-07.txt - 2 of 3 IP Multicast in Differentiated Services Networks (Informational) Token: Bill Fenner The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document. The Secretariat will send a "no problem" message that includes an RFC Editor note to be prepared by Bill Fenner. o draft-ogura-mapos-nsp-multiexp-02.txt - 3 of 3 A Multicast Extension to MAPOS NSP (Node Switch Protocol) (Informational) Token: Thomas Narten The IESG recommends that this document not be published as an Informational RFC. The Secretariat will send a "do not publish" message to the RFC Editor that includes an explanation of the decision to be prepared by Thomas Narten. 3.3.2 Returning Item NONE 3.3.3 To Be Assigned o draft-aboulmagd-trtcm-inprofile-01.txt - 1 of 1 The document was assigned to Jon Peterson. 4. Working Group Action 4.1 WG Creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review o Credential and Provisioning (enroll) - 1 of 2 Token: Russ Houlsey The IESG approved the draft working group charter for IETF review. The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a copy to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the working group on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference (10/30/03). o IP over DVB (ipdvb) - 2 of 2 Token: Margaret Wasserman The IESG approved the draft working group charter for IETF review. The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a copy to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the working group on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference (10/30/03). 4.1.2 Proposed for Approval o Long-Term Archive and Notary Services (ltans) - 1 of 3 Token: Russ Housley The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. o MIPv6 Signaling and Handoff Optimization (mipshop) - 2 of 3 Token: Thomas Narten The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. o Internet and Management Support for Storage (imss) - 3 of 3 Token: Margaret Wasserman The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. 4.2 WG Rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review NONE 4.2.2 Proposed for Approval o Multiprotocol Label Switching (mpls) - 1 of 3 Token: Alex Zinin The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group. The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement, to include additional text to be provided by Alex Zinin. o Common Control and Measurement Plane (ccamp) - 2 of 3 Token: Alex Zinin The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group. The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement, to include additional text to be provided by Alex Zinin. o Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB (hubmib) - 3 of 3 Token: Bert Wijnen The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group. The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement. 5. Working Group News We Can Use 6. IAB News We Can Use 7. Management Issues 7.1 EDU Team updated charter (Harald Alvestrand) This management issue was discussed. ---------------------------------------- * Please see the ID Tracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi) for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.