INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Minutes of the January 22, 2004 IESG Teleconference Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES ------------------ Harald Alvestrand / Cisco Steve Bellovin / AT&T Steve Conte / ICANN (IANA) Leslie Daigle / Verisign (IAB) Patrik Falstrom / Cisco (Temporary IAB Liaison) Bill Fenner / AT&T Ned Freed / Sun Microsystems Barbara Fuller / IETF Secretariat Ted Hardie / Qualcomm, Inc. Russ Housley / Vigil Security, LLC David Kessens / Nokia Allison Mankin / Bell Labs, Lucent Thomas Narten / IBM Jon Peterson / NeuStar, Inc. Joyce K. Reynolds / ISI (RFC Editor) Dinara Suleymanova / IETF Secretariat Amy Vezza / IETF Secretariat Margaret Wasserman / ThingMagic Bert Wijnen / Lucent Alex Zinin / Alcatel REGRETS ------------ Rob Austein / ISC (IAB Liaison) Michelle Cotton / ICANN (IANA) MINUTES --------------- 1. Administrivia 1.1 Approval of the Minutes The minutes of the January 8, 2004 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. 1.2 Documents Approved Since the January 8, 2004 IESG Teleconference 1.2.1 Protocol Actions o Two Document Ballot Set - draft-ietf-sacred-protocol-bss-09.txt (Proposed Standard) - draft-ietf-sacred-framework-07.txt (Informational RFC) o draft-ietf-sipping-3pcc-06.txt (BCP) o draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-stateless-04.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-mip4-aaa-nai-02.txt (Proposed Standard) 1.2.2 Document Actions o Eight Document Set - draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey-apps-04.txt (Informational RFC) - draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey-ops-05.txt (Informational RFC) - draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey-int-03.txt (Informational RFC) - draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey-intro-06.txt (Informational RFC) - draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey-routing-03.txt (Informational RFC) - draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey-sec-04.txt (Informational RFC) - draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey-subip-04.txt (Informational RFC) - draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey-trans-05.txt(Informational RFC) o draft-ietf-msec-arch-05.txt (Informational RFC) 1.3 Review of Action Items DONE: o Allison Mankin and Margaret Wasserman to draft announcement message for PROTO Team to be discussed by the IESG. DELETED: NONE IN PROGRESS: o Thomas Narten to write (or cause to be written) a draft on "how to get to Draft". o Thomas Narten to contact Cablelabs to discuss formal relationship with IAB. o Steve Bellovin to write RFC re: TCP MD5 option. o Bill Fenner to generate a description of policy about a) meetings using the network in conjunction with IETF meetings, and b) putting experiments on the network during the IETF meeting. o Steve Bellovin to initiate a discussion on the general ACL issue. o Thomas Narten and Ted Hardie to discuss IANA considerations. o Steve Bellovin to write a revised version of the proposed revision of the IESG's guidelines for spam control on IETF mailing lists. o Harald Alvestrand to draft a note that the Secretariat will send to the RFC Editor, saying that the IESG is happy to leave the decision on publishing draft-ogura-mapos-nsp-multiexp to the RFC Editor. o Joyce Reynolds to provide input from the RFC Editor about the RFC Editor's view of the IESG's role in review of RFC Editor submissions. NEW: o Bert Wijnen to work with Leslie Daigle and Scott Bradner on a description of the purpose of and procedures for the new-work mailing list. o The Secretariat will post its current procedures for processing IPR disclosures on the internal IESG Web page. 2. Protocol Actions 2.1 WG Submissions 2.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-sip-session-timer-13.txt - 1 of 6 Session Timers in the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) (Proposed Standard) Token: Allison Mankin The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Ted Hardie.* o draft-ietf-sigtran-dua-07.txt - 2 of 6 DPNSS/DASS 2 extensions to the IUA protocol (Proposed Standard) Token: Jon Peterson The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Russ Housley.* o Two-document ballot: - 3 of 6 - draft-ietf-rohc-mib-rtp-09.txt Definitions of Managed Objects for Robus Header Compression (Proposed Standard) - draft-ietf-rohc-terminology-and-examples-02.txt RObust Header Compression (ROHC):Terminology and Channel Mapping Examples (Informational) Token: Allison Mankin The document was approved by the IESG pending a possible title change to be documented in an RFC Editor Note prepared by Allison Mankin. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note (if applicable). o draft-ietf-mboned-ssm232-07.txt - 4 of 6 Source-Specific Protocol Independent Multicast in 232/8 (BCP) Token: Bert Wijnen The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Thomas Narten.* o draft-ietf-tsvwg-newreno-02.txt - 5 of 6 The NewReno Modification to TCP's Fast Recovery Algorithm (Proposed Standard) Token: Jon Peterson The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-sntp-00.txt - 6 of 6 Simple Network Time Protocol Configuration Option for DHCPv6 (Proposed Standard) Token: Margaret Wasserman The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Thomas Narten, Bert Wijnen, and Alex Zinin.* 2.1.2 Returning Item o draft-ietf-snmpconf-pm-14.txt - 1 of 1 Policy Based Management MIB (Proposed Standard) Token: Bert Wijnen The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin and Ted Hardie.* 2.2 Individual Submissions 2.2.1 New Item o draft-orman-public-key-lengths-07.txt - 1 of 2 Determining Strengths For Public Keys Used For Exchanging Symmetric Keys (BCP) Token: Steve Bellovin The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Steve Bellovin. The Secretariat will send an individual submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. o draft-jones-opsec-03.txt - 2 of 2 Operational Security Requirements for IP Network Infrastructure (BCP) Token: Steve Bellovin The document was deferred to the next teleconference (02/05/2004) by Bill Fenner. 2.2.2 Returning Item NONE 3. Document Actions 3.1 WG Submissions 3.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-tsvwg-slowstart-00.txt - 1 of 4 Limited Slow-Start for TCP with Large Congestion Windows (Experimental) Token: Jon Peterson The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-nsis-fw-05.txt - 2 of 4 Next Steps in Signaling: Framework (Informational) Token: Allison Mankin The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin.* o draft-ietf-pim-dm-new-v2-04.txt - 3 of 4 Protocol Independent Multicast - Dense Mode (PIM-DM):Protocol Specification (Revised) (Experimental) Token: Alex Zinin The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Russ Housley.* o draft-ietf-problem-issue-statement-05.txt - 4 of 4 IETF Problem Statement (Informational) Token: Harald Alvestrand The document was deferred to the next teleconference (02/05/2004) by the IESG. 3.1.2 Returning Item NONE 3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD 3.2.1 New Item NONE 3.2.2 Returning Item NONE 3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor 3.3.1 New Item NONE 3.3.2 Returning Item o draft-touch-ipsec-vpn-06.txt - 1 of 2 Use of IPsec Transport Mode for Dynamic Routing (Informational) Token: Russ Housley The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Thomas Narten.* o draft-hayashi-igap-03.txt - 2 of 2 Internet Group membership Authentication Protocol (IGAP) (Informational) Token: Margaret Wasserman The IESG recommends that the RFC Editor does not publish this document. The Secretariat will send a "do not publish" message prepared by Margaret Wasserman to the RFC Editor. 4. Working Group Actions 4.1 WG Creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review o Improved Cross-Area Review (icar) - 1 of 5 Token: Harald Alvestrand The IESG approved the draft working group charter for IETF review pending text revisions from Alex Zinin. The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a copy to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the working group on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (02/05/2004). o IKEv2 Mobility and Multihoming (mobike) - 2 of 5 Token: Steven Bellovin The IESG approved the draft working group charter for IETF review. The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a copy to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the working group on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (02/05/2004). o Detecting Network Attachment (dna) - 3 of 5 Token: Margaret Wasserman The IESG approved the draft working group charter for IETF review. The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a copy to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the working group on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (02/05/2004). o TCP Maintenance and Minor Extensions (tcpm) - 4 of 5 Token: Allison Mankin The IESG approved the draft working group charter for IETF review. The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a copy to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the working group on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (02/05/2004). o Host Identity Payload (hip) - 5 of 5 Token: Margaret Wasserman The IESG approved the draft working group charter for IETF review. The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a copy to new-work@ietf.org. The announcement will include the description of a related IRTF research group, to be prepared by Margaret Wasserman. The Secretariat will place the working group on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (02/05/2004). 4.1.2 Proposed for Approval o IP over DVB (ipdvb) - 1 of 3 Token: Margaret Wasserman The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. o Profiling Use of PKI in IPSEC (pki4ipsec) - 2 of 3 Token: Russ Housley The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. o Control And Provisioning of Wireless Access Points (capwap) - 3 of 3 Token: Bert Wijnen The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending edited text from Bert Wijnen. The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement . 4.2 WG Rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review o DNS Extensions (dnsext) - 1 of 3 Token: Thomas Narten The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group. The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement. o Zero Configuration Networking (zeroconf) - 2 of 3 Token: Thomas Narten The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group. The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement. o Cross Registry Information Service Protocol (crisp) - 3 of 3 Token: Ted Hardie The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group. The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement. 4.2.2 Proposed for Approval NONE 5. Working Group News We Can Use 6. IAB News We Can Use 7. Management Issues 7.1 the IESG's -- and IETF's -- role in RFC Editor documents (Steve Bellovin) This management issue was postponed until the next IESG Teleconference (02/05/2004). 7.2 IANA allocations for ietf-ccamp-gmpls-sonet-sdh (Alex Zinin) This management issue was discussed. The IESG agreed to recommend that IANA moves the assignment for ietf-ccamp-gmpls-sonet-sdh to value 4 and mark value 3 as reserved. 7.3 status and purpose of new-work mailing list (Bert Wijnen) This management issue was discussed. Action item: Bert Wijnen to work with Leslie Daigle and Scott Bradner on a description of the purpose of and procedures for the new-work mailing list. 7.4 Discussion of IANA Note (Thomas Narten) This management issue was discussed. 7.5 Procedure for Handling IPR Statements (Thomas Narten) This management issue was discussed. Action item: The Secretariat will post its current procedures for processing IPR disclosures on the internal IESG Web page. ---------------------------------------- * Please see the ID Tracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi) for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.