INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Minutes of the February 19, 2004 IESG Teleconference Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES ------------------ Harald Alvestrand / Cisco Rob Austein / ISC (IAB Liaison) Steve Bellovin / AT&T Steve Conte / ICANN (IANA) Leslie Daigle / Verisign (IAB) Bill Fenner / AT&T Ned Freed / Sun Microsystems Barbara Fuller / IETF Secretariat Ted Hardie / Qualcomm, Inc. Scott Hollenbeck / VeriSign Russ Housley / Vigil Security, LLC David Kessens / Nokia Henrik Levkowetz / PROTO Team Member Allison Mankin / Bell Labs, Lucent Dave Meyer / PROTO Team Member Thomas Narten / IBM Jon Peterson / NeuStar, Inc. Joyce K. Reynolds / ISI (RFC Editor) Dinara Suleymanova / IETF Secretariat Amy Vezza / IETF Secretariat Margaret Wasserman / ThingMagic Bert Wijnen / Lucent REGRETS ------------ Michelle Cotton / ICANN (IANA) Alex Zinin / Alcatel MINUTES --------------- 1. Administrivia 1.1 Approval of the Minutes The minutes of the February 5, 2004 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. 1.2 Documents Approved Since the February 5, 2004 IESG Teleconference 1.2.1 Protocol Actions o draft-ietf-vrrp-spec-v2-10.txt (Draft Standard) o draft-orman-public-key-lengths-08.txt (BCP) o draft-klyne-msghdr-registry-07.txt (BCP) o draft-ietf-tls-compression-07.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-eap-rfc2284bis-09.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-newman-esmtpsa-01.txt (Proposed Standard) 1.2.2 Document Actions o draft-weltman-ldapv3-auth-response-09.txt (Informational RFC) o draft-ietf-ippm-owdp-reqs-06.txt (Informational RFC) o draft-ietf-seamoby-mobility-terminology-06.txt (Informational RFC) o draft-ietf-opes-threats-03.txt (Informational RFC) 1.3 Review of Action Items DONE: NONE DELETED: NONE IN PROGRESS: o Thomas Narten to write (or cause to be written) a draft on "how to get to Draft". o Thomas Narten to contact Cablelabs to discuss formal relationship with IAB. o Steve Bellovin to write RFC re: TCP MD5 option. o Bill Fenner to generate a description of policy about a) meetings using the network in conjunction with IETF meetings, and b) putting experiments on the network during the IETF meeting. o Steve Bellovin to initiate a discussion on the general ACL issue. o Thomas Narten and Ted Hardie to discuss IANA considerations. o Harald Alvestrand to draft a note that the Secretariat will send to the RFC Editor, saying that the IESG is happy to leave the decision on publishing draft-ogura-mapos-nsp-multiexp to the RFC Editor. o Joyce Reynolds to provide input from the RFC Editor about the RFC Editor's view of the IESG's role in review of RFC Editor submissions. o Bert Wijnen to work with Leslie Daigle and Scott Bradner on a description of the purpose of and procedures for the new-work mailing list. o Steve Bellovin to prepare input for a discussion of the relation between the IESG and the RFC Editor at the Seoul IETF Meeting. o Ted Hardie to write up a procedure based on the W3C's communication to the IESG regarding MIME Part 4 update. o Thomas Narten to suggest an updated charter for the PPPEXT working Group that describes it as a standard maintenance group. o Bert Wijnen, Thomas Narten, and David Kessens to work with David Meyer to clarify details on a particular IANA request and see if there are any other appropriate action items. NEW: o Harald Alvestrand to get text for the charter of NEWTRK about the addition of discussion of document labeling to its work items. o Bill Fenner to talk to Scott Bradner to inquire about ITU's intentions or plans for studying BGP filtering. 2. Protocol Actions 2.1 WG Submissions 2.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-zeroconf-ipv4-linklocal-13.txt - 1 of 8 Dynamic Configuration of Link-Local IPv4 Addresses (Proposed Standard) Token: Thomas Narten The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Ted Hardie, Margaret Wasserman, and Alex Zinin.* o Two-document ballot: - 2 of 8 - draft-ietf-avt-rtcp-feedback-08.txt Extended RTP Profile for RTCP-based Feedback(RTP/AVPF) (Proposed Standard) - draft-burmeister-avt-rtcp-feedback-sim-05.txt Extended RTP Profile for RTCP-based Feedback - Results of the Timing Rule Simulations (Informational) Token: Allison Mankin The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Russ Housley and Allison Mankin on behalf of IANA.* o draft-ietf-ipv6-rfc2011-update-07.txt - 3 of 8 Management Information Base for the Internet Protocol (IP) (Proposed Standard) Token: Margaret Wasserman The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Thomas Narten and Bert Wijnen.* o draft-ietf-dhc-server-mib-10.txt - 4 of 8 Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol for IPv4 (DHCPv4) Server MIB (Proposed Standard) Token: Margaret Wasserman The document was deferred to the next IESG Teleconference (03/18/2004) by Bert Wijnen. o draft-ietf-dhc-auth-suboption-03.txt - 5 of 8 The Authentication Suboption for the DHCP Relay Agent Option (Proposed Standard) Token: Margaret Wasserman The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Russ Housley, Allison Mankin, and Thomas Narten.* o draft-ietf-avt-rtp-clearmode-04.txt - 6 of 8 RTP payload format for a 64 kbit/s transparent call (Proposed Standard) Token: Allison Mankin The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Ned Freed, Ted Hardie, and Russ Housley.* o draft-ietf-send-cga-05.txt - 7 of 8 Cryptographically Generated Addresses (CGA) (Proposed Standard) Token: Margaret Wasserman The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Russ Housley.* o draft-ietf-pkix-sonof3039-05.txt - 8 of 8 Internet X.509 Public Key Infrastructure: Qualified Certificates Profile (Proposed Standard) Token: Russ Housley The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. 2.1.2 Returning Item o draft-ietf-sigtran-sua-16.txt - 1 of 4 Signalling Connection Control Part User Adaptation Layer (SUA) (Proposed Standard) Token: Jon Peterson The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-aaa-diameter-mobileip-16.txt - 2 of 4 Diameter Mobile IPv4 Application (Proposed Standard) Token: Bert Wijnen The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin, Russ Housley, and Thomas Narten.* o draft-ietf-mpls-in-ip-or-gre-05.txt - 3 of 4 Encapsulating MPLS in IP or Generic Routing Encapsulation (GRE) (Proposed Standard) Token: Alex Zinin The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin, Thomas Narten, and Bert Wijnen.* o draft-ietf-tsvwg-prsctp-03.txt - 4 of 4 SCTP Partial Reliability Extension (Proposed Standard) Token: Jon Peterson The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Thomas Narten.* 2.2 Individual Submissions 2.2.1 New Item o draft-eastlake-ip-mime-08.txt - 1 of 5 IP over MIME (Proposed Standard) Token: Ned Freed The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin, Thomas Narten, Bert Wijnen, and Alex Zinin.* o draft-weltman-ldapv3-proxy-12.txt - 2 of 5 LDAP Proxied Authentication Control (Proposed Standard) Token: Ted Hardie The document was deferred to the next IESG Teleconference (03/18/2004) by Harald Alvestrand. o draft-moore-auto-email-response-05.txt - 3 of 5 Recommendations for Automatic Responses to Electronic Mail (Proposed Standard) Token: Ned Freed The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an individual submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-legg-ldap-cmr-module-00.txt - 4 of 5 ASN.1 Module Definition for the LDAP & X.500 Component Matching Rules (Proposed Standard) Token: Ted Hardie The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an individual submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-malamud-no-soliciting-06.txt - 5 of 5 A No Soliciting SMTP Service Extension (Proposed Standard) Token: Ned Freed The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Ted Hardie.* 2.2.2 Returning Item o draft-zeilenga-ldap-authzid-08.txt - 1 of 1 LDAP 'Who am I?' Operation (Proposed Standard) Token: Ted Hardie The document was removed from the IESG Teleconference agenda by Ted Hardie. The Secretariat placed the document on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (03/18/2004). 3. Document Actions 3.1 WG Submissions 3.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-trade-iotp-v1.0-papi-05.txt - 1 of 4 Payment API for v1.0 Internet Open Trading Protocol (IOTP) (Informational) Token: Ned Freed The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Russ Housley.* o draft-ietf-seamoby-card-protocol-06.txt - 2 of 4 Candidate Access Router Discovery (Experimental) Token: Allison Mankin The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin, Russ Housley, and Thomas Narten.* o draft-ietf-pkix-pkixrep-02.txt - 3 of 4 Internet X.509 Public Key Infrastructure Repository Locator Service (Experimental) Token: Russ Housley The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Ted Hardie.* o draft-ietf-mip4-vpn-problem-statement-02.txt - 4 of 4 Problem Statement: Mobile IPv4 Traversal of VPN Gateways (Informational) Token: Thomas Narten The document was deferred to the next IESG Teleconference (03/18/2004) by Allison Mankin. 3.1.2 Returning Item o draft-ietf-opes-iab-04.txt - 1 of 2 OPES Treatment of IAB Considerations (Informational) Token: Ned Freed The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Russ Housley.* o draft-ietf-opes-end-comm-06.txt - 2 of 2 OPES entities and end points communication (Informational) Token: Ned Freed The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Ted Hardie and Allison Mankin.* 3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD 3.2.1 New Item o draft-eastlake-rfc2777bis-selection-03.txt - 1 of 2 Publicly Verifiable Nomcom Random Selection (Informational) Token: Harald Alvestrand The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin.* o draft-zilles-pdf-02.txt - 2 of 2 The application/pdf Media Type (Informational) Token: Ned Freed The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Thomas Narten.* 3.2.2 Returning Item o draft-huston-ipv6-documentation-prefix-03.txt - 1 of 1 IPv6 Address Prefix reserved for Documentation (Informational) Token: Thomas Narten The document was approved by the IESG pending additional text for the approval announcement to be prepared by Thomas Narten. The Secretariat will send an individual submission Document Action Announcement that includes the additional text. 3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor 3.3.1 New Item o draft-baker-slem-architecture-02.txt - 1 of 2 Cisco Support for Lawful Intercept In IP Networks (Informational) Token: Steve Bellovin The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document. The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC Editor that includes an IESG Note to be prepared by Ted Hardie. o Two-document ballot: - 2 of 2 - draft-irtf-nmrg-sming-07.txt SMIng - Next Generation Structure of Management Information (Experimental) - draft-irtf-nmrg-sming-snmp-05.txt SMIng Mappings to SNMP (Experimental) Token: Bert Wijnen The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing these documents. The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC Editor. 3.3.2 Returning Item NONE 4. Working Group Actions 4.1 WG Creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review NONE 4.1.2 Proposed for Approval o New IETF Standards Track Discussion (newtrk) - 1 of 4 Token: Harald Alvestrand The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending additional text for the charter to be prepared by Harald Alvestrand. The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. o Routing Area Working Group (rtgwg) - 2 of 4 Token: Alex Zinin The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. o Link-Enhancing Transport Intermediary Communication (letic) - 3 of 4 Token: Jon Peterson The IESG decided not to approve the charter for the working group at this time. The Secretariat will place the working group on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (03/18/2004). o Host Identity Payload (hip) - 4 of 4 Token: Margaret Wasserman The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. 4.2 WG Rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review o Transport Area Working Group (tsvwg) - 1 of 1 Token: Jon Peterson The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group. The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement. 4.2.2 Proposed for Approval NONE 5. Working Group News We Can Use 6. IAB News We Can Use 7. Management Issues 7.1 ITU plans for BGP filtering (Steve Bellovin) This management issue was discussed. Action item: Bill Fenner to talk to Scott Bradner to inquire about ITU's intentions or plans for studying BGP filtering. ---------------------------------------- * Please see the ID Tracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi) for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.