INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Minutes of the October 28, 2004 IESG Teleconference Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES ------------------ Harald Alvestrand / Cisco Rob Austein / ISC (IAB Liaison) Steve Bellovin / AT&T Steve Conte / ICANN (IANA) Michelle Cotton / ICANN (IANA) Leslie Daigle / Verisign (IAB) Aaron Falk / ISI (RFC Editor) Bill Fenner / AT&T Barbara Fuller / IETF Secretariat Ted Hardie / Qualcomm, Inc. Russ Housley / Vigil Security, LLC David Kessens / Nokia Allison Mankin / Shinkuro, Inc. Thomas Narten / IBM Jon Peterson / NeuStar, Inc. Dinara Suleymanova / IETF Secretariat Amy Vezza / IETF Secretariat Margaret Wasserman / ThingMagic Bert Wijnen / Lucent Alex Zinin / Alcatel REGRETS ------------ Scott Hollenbeck / VeriSign Joyce K. Reynolds / ISI (RFC Editor) MINUTES --------------- 1. Administrivia 1.1 Approval of the Minutes The minutes of the October 14, 2004 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. 1.2 Documents Approved Since the October 14, 2004 IESG Teleconference 1.2.1 Protocol Actions o draft-ietf-sigtran-dua-08.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-l3vpn-rfc2547bis-03.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-mpls-rsvp-lsp-fastreroute-07.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-krb-wg-kerberos-clarifications-07.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-reyes-policy-core-ext-schema-07.txt (Proposed Standard) 1.2.2 Document Actions o draft-ietf-mipshop-fast-mipv6-03.txt (Experimental RFC) o draft-ietf-pana-requirements-09.txt (Informational RFC) o draft-ietf-l3vpn-as2547-07.txt (Informational RFC) 1.3 Review of Action Items DONE: NONE DELETED: NONE IN PROGRESS: o Bill Fenner to determine with WG chairs whether a liaison with OIF is desirable, and will inform the IAB of the decision. o Applications ADs to evaluate the situation with regards to MIME type review, and see how we can ensure the review turnaround times specified in the MIME registration procedures. o Allison Mankin and Thomas Narten to compose a message for the IESG and IAB related to 3GPP's Release 6 publication deadline and expedited documents. o Allison Mankin will encourage Dave Meyer to go forward with his I-D on IETF minutes, and will suggest some IESG points for it. o Harald Alvestrand to suggest modified text for the standard "no problem" message to the RFC Editor that includes a pointer to the comments in the I-D Tracker. NEW: NONE 1.4 Review of Projects 2. Protocol Actions 2.1 WG Submissions 2.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-ediint-as2-17.txt - 1 of 10 MIME-based Secure Peer-to-Peer Business Data Interchange over the Internet Using HTTP (Proposed Standard) Token: Scott Hollenbeck The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin, Ted Hardie, and Russ Housley.* o draft-ietf-l3vpn-gre-ip-2547-03.txt - 2 of 10 Use of PE-PE GRE or IP in BGP/MPLS IP VPNs (Proposed Standard) Token: Thomas Narten The document was deferred to the next IESG Teleconference (11/18/2004) by Allison Mankin. o draft-ietf-aaa-eap-09.txt - 3 of 10 Diameter Extensible Authentication Protocol (EAP) Application (Proposed Standard) Token: Bert Wijnen The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Bert Wijnen. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. o draft-ietf-ccamp-lmp-mib-10.txt - 4 of 10 Link Management Protocol Management Information Base (Proposed Standard) Token: Bert Wijnen The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Bert Wijnen. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. o draft-ietf-sip-rfc3312-update-03.txt - 5 of 10 Update to the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Preconditions Framework (Proposed Standard) Token: Allison Mankin The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Allison Mankin. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. o draft-ietf-ssm-arch-06.txt - 6 of 10 Source-Specific Multicast for IP (Proposed Standard) Token: Alex Zinin The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Harald Alvestrand, Russ Housley, and Bill Fenner on behalf of IANA.* o draft-ietf-ipv6-inet-tunnel-mib-03.txt - 7 of 10 IP Tunnel MIB (Proposed Standard) Token: Margaret Wasserman The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Bert Wijnen on behalf of IANA.* o draft-ietf-ipv6-rfc2013-update-04.txt - 8 of 10 Management Information Base for the User Datagram Protocol (UDP) (Proposed Standard) Token: Margaret Wasserman The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Bert Wijnen on behalf of IANA.* o draft-ietf-mip4-experimental-messages-02.txt - 9 of 10 Experimental Message, Extension and Error Codes for Mobile IPv4 (Proposed Standard) Token: Thomas Narten The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action announcement. o draft-ietf-dhc-rapid-commit-opt-05.txt - 10 of 10 Rapid Commit Option for DHCPv4 (Proposed Standard) Token: Margaret Wasserman The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action announcement. 2.1.2 Returning Item NONE 2.2 Individual Submissions 2.2.1 New Item o draft-duerst-iri-10.txt - 1 of 4 Internationalized Resource Identifiers (IRIs) (Proposed Standard) Token: Ted Hardie The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Russ Housley and Margaret Wasserman.* o draft-black-snmp-uri-08.txt - 2 of 4 Uniform Resource Identifier (URI) Scheme for the Simple Network Management Protocol (SNMP) (Proposed Standard) Token: Bert Wijnen The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin.* o draft-klensin-ip-service-terms-04.txt - 3 of 4 Terminology for Describing Internet Connectivivy (BCP) Token: David Kessens The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an individual submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-ipsec-ciph-aes-gcm-00.txt - 4 of 4 The Use of Galois/Counter Mode (GCM) in IPsec ESP (Proposed Standard) Token: Russ Housley The document was deferred to the next IESG Teleconference (11/18/2004) by Steve Bellovin. 2.2.2 Returning Item NONE 3. Document Actions 3.1 WG Submissions 3.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-l2tpext-mcast-05.txt - 1 of 5 Extensions to support efficient carrying of multicast traffic in Layer-2 Tunneling Protocol (L2TP) (Experimental) Token: Thomas Narten The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ason-routing-reqts-05.txt - 2 of 5 Requirements for Generalized MPLS (GMPLS) Routing for Automatically Switched Optical Network (ASON) (Informational) Token: Alex Zinin The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Bill Fenner.* o draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ason-reqts-07.txt - 3 of 5 Requirements for Generalized MPLS (GMPLS) Signaling Usage and Extensions for Automatically Switched Optical Network (ASON) (Informational) Token: Alex Zinin The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Bill Fenner.* o draft-ietf-sipping-transc-3pcc-02.txt - 4 of 5 Transcoding Services Invocation in the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Using Third Party Call Control (3pcc) (Informational) Token: Allison Mankin The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Russ Housley.* o draft-ietf-geopriv-pres-02.txt - 5 of 5 A Presence Architecture for the Distribution of GEOPRIV Location Objects (Informational) Token: Ted Hardie The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement. 3.1.2 Returning Item NONE 3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD 3.2.1 New Item o draft-allen-fitsmime-00.txt - 1 of 3 MIME Sub-type Registrations for FITS (Informational) Token: Scott Hollenbeck The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an individual submission Document Action Announcement. o draft-carpenter-obsolete-1888-01.txt - 2 of 3 RFC 1888 is obsolete (Informational) Token: Margaret Wasserman The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an individual submission Document Action Announcement. o draft-housley-binarytime-02.txt - 3 of 3 BinaryTime: An alternate format for representing date and time in ASN.1 (Experimental) Token: Steve Bellovin The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an individual submission Document Action Announcement. 3.2.2 Returning Item o draft-royer-calsch-cap-01.txt - 1 of 1 Calendar Access Protocol (CAP) (Experimental) Token: Ted Hardie The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Ted Hardie. The Secretariat will send an individual submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. 3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor 3.3.1 New Item NONE 3.3.2 Returning Item NONE 4. Working Group Actions 4.1 WG Creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review o Sieve Mail Filtering Language (sieve) - 1 of 1 Token: Scott Hollenbeck The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review. The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (11/18/2004). 4.1.2 Proposed for Approval o Kitten (kitten) - 1 of 1 Token: Russ Housley The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending the addition of the name of the working group chair to be provided by Russ Housley. The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. 4.2 WG Rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review NONE 4.2.2 Proposed for Approval o Control And Provisioning of Wireless Access Points (capwap) - 1 of 2 Token: Bert Wijnen The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group. The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement. o Open Pluggable Edge Services (opes) - 2 of 2 Token: Ted Hardie The IESG postpone the discussion of the recharter of OPES until the next IESG Teleconferece (11/18/2004). 5. Working Group News We Can Use 6. IAB News We Can Use 7. Management Issues 7.1 MIME type registration requests (Scott Hollenbeck) The management issue was discussed. The MIME type registrations were approved by the IESG. 7.2 What to do next with ipv6 DNS discovery (David Kessens) The management issue was discussed. 7.3 Trademark Policy in RFCs (Steve Bellovin) The management issue was discussed. The IESG decided to refer the question of "how to cite trademarks" to the IPR working group. 7.4 RFC Editor needs clarification for draft-daigle-snaptr-01.txt (Aaron Falk) The management issue was discussed. The IESG had no objections to removing the paragraph under discussion. 7.5 PROTO Team Next Steps (Margaret Wasserman and Allison Mankin) The management issue was discussed. Margaret Wasserman and Allison Mankin will circulate the PROTO document to the ADs for review. Harald Alvestrand will add PROTO to the Sunday morning agenda in D.C. 7.6 IETF DC Meeting Sunday Morning Agenda (Harald Alvestrand) The management issue was discussed. ---------------------------------------- * Please see the ID Tracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi) for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.